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    CNSNews.com - House Democrats Will Seek Massive $540 Billion Tax Increase?Announcement Came Late Friday Afternoon



    Democrats Agree on Tax Hike to Fund Health Care - washingtonpost.com



    Despite a still-lagging U.S. economy and rising unemployment rate, House Democrats announced late yesterday that they will seek a massive increase in federal income taxes to help pay for the national health-care reform proposal that President Obama is urging Congress to enact this summer.

    House Ways and Means Chairman Charles Rangel (D.-N.Y.)revealed late Friday afternoon that House Democrats will seek to increase income taxes by $540 billion.
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    Re: bend over and grab your ankles america

    Let 'em...I'm too poor to even realize we're in a recession as long as gas stays affordable. Lower taxes is the reason SSI is going broke, Medicare is lagging in funding, and our national debt is on the verge of being permanantly unpayable...When Regan was lowering taxes, and Bush I was lowering taxes, and Bush II was lowering taxes, all they did was line the pockets of the already wealthy. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING OUR BILLS.
    ...And if you ain't down with that, I got 2 words for ya....

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    Re: bend over and grab your ankles america

    Quote Originally Posted by sup-rbeast View Post
    Let 'em...I'm too poor to even realize we're in a recession as long as gas stays affordable. Lower taxes is the reason SSI is going broke, Medicare is lagging in funding, and our national debt is on the verge of being permanantly unpayable...When Regan was lowering taxes, and Bush I was lowering taxes, and Bush II was lowering taxes, all they did was line the pockets of the already wealthy. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING OUR BILLS.
    the FICA tax rate has been unchanged at 7.65% since 1990

    and has been over 7% since 1985

    so people are still beng taxed the same for FICA

    the problem with SSI is that people who never pay a dime into get to collect

    what you pay in is what you should be able to collect.......thats it

    secondly all they did was lower the tax bracket for the top income earners in the country

    want to make it fair.......tax everybody at the same rate regardless of income

    then those who make less still pay the same percentage and then we dont have to hear people who arent affected by higher taxes cry about lowerng them

    charge everybody 25 or 27.5% across the board instead of this 15-35% range we have now

    would that be better for you?
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    Re: bend over and grab your ankles america

    I think the rate should increase according to earnings...never said it was fair...but all these big wigs wanna be patriotic, then there's how they can do it. Most have never served the country that made them rich, so that's how they can serve their country...
    ...And if you ain't down with that, I got 2 words for ya....

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    Re: bend over and grab your ankles america

    Quote Originally Posted by sup-rbeast View Post
    I think the rate should increase according to earnings...never said it was fair...but all these big wigs wanna be patriotic, then there's how they can do it. Most have never served the country that made them rich, so that's how they can serve their country...
    why should it increase by income?

    why shouldnt it just be fair then and tax everybody at the same rate?

    this way people like you cant bitch about them lowering taxes and how bad lowering taxes is

    this way everybody pays the same thing.........even if it means you pay more in taxes

    as americans we all have the same opportunities........just because some people take advantage of it and others dont means they should be penalized by paying more in taxes?

    blanket tax rate across the board of 25% seems like the winner to me
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    Re: bend over and grab your ankles america

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWahooChambordDevil View Post
    why should it increase by income?

    why shouldnt it just be fair then and tax everybody at the same rate?

    this way people like you cant bitch about them lowering taxes and how bad lowering taxes is

    this way everybody pays the same thing.........even if it means you pay more in taxes

    as americans we all have the same opportunities........just because some people take advantage of it and others dont means they should be penalized by paying more in taxes?

    blanket tax rate across the board of 25% seems like the winner to me
    I guess the same reason that those who have never served think they deserve the same protections from this nation as those who have. I say F*CK THE RICH...let 'em start doin their part. The days of Bush waxing their trophies is over my friend.
    ...And if you ain't down with that, I got 2 words for ya....

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    Re: bend over and grab your ankles america

    Tax hike on the wealthy to pay for healthcare, this has been the plan since he started running...its no secret, he's said he would raise taxes on the wealthy for awhile.

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    Re: bend over and grab your ankles america

    A 'fair' tax isn't that fair, how does it not favor the wealthy or hurt the ones who make less more? Communism looks pretty fair on paper too, progressive is where it needs to stay.

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    Re: bend over and grab your ankles america

    Quote Originally Posted by R13 View Post
    A 'fair' tax isn't that fair, how does it not favor the wealthy or hurt the ones who make less more? Communism looks pretty fair on paper too, progressive is where it needs to stay.
    i think it works.........why should people be penalized for making the most of the opportunity theyve been afforded to pay for those who havent taken advantage?
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    Re: bend over and grab your ankles america

    Quote Originally Posted by R13 View Post
    Tax hike on the wealthy to pay for healthcare, this has been the plan since he started running...its no secret, he's said he would raise taxes on the wealthy for awhile.
    yet last week he said his BS plan could be funded simply by cutting out the fraud and unnecessary expenses associated with medicare

    first question is if you can generate that much income from cutting medicare fraud.........why not do that first and show us something?
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